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haryc

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help in deciphering service record.
« on: 29 July 2017 08:22:32 PM »

Hi
I am going through my father's service record and would appreciate any help anyone can give me please.

It is his Radar Plot History Sheet and it says
13.08.1949 HMS Vanguard AB RP2 (I know all this bit)
Action Station: A.D.R.
Duty: D.R. Keeper
abilitly good.

I really would love to know ...

What happened, where on 13.08 1949 that the Vanguard was involved in, what does action station A.D.R. mean and what is a D.R. Keeper?

I've just realised that the 13th August was the day after he and my mum got engaged. So I guess he couldn't have got too far from England. Unless he proposed by telegram!!!!

Many thanks
Carol
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Re: help in deciphering service record.
« Reply #1 on: 30 July 2017 08:23:16 AM »

Carol

A D R = Aircraft Direction Room

D R Keeper = responsible for keeping the Direction Room clean, tidy and in good order...

13.08.1949 - I think she would have been at Devonport; I know she arrived at Plymouth 9 August to join the Home Fleet Training Squadron after being in the Mediterranean (south of France, Italy, Malta, Gibraltar) since February 1949, and during October she was in the Firth of Forth

He must have been trained in what was called then "aircraft direction" - see this magazine article from the early-1950s, which mentions the ADR:

 https://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1957/1957%20-%200384.html?tracked=1
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Re: help in deciphering service record.
« Reply #2 on: 01 August 2017 03:41:21 PM »

I am sorry but I have another query.

In nature of decorations it says

31.10.1946 WG and PWC credited
26.08.1949 Burma Star & War Medal (I get them)
No date EHBP 109.3

Can anyone assist here please?
Many thanks
Carol
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Re: help in deciphering service record.
« Reply #3 on: 01 August 2017 04:10:39 PM »

It's me again.
I have been going through your answer earlier and was wondering how I find out more about the places that HMS Vanguard visited.
My Dad told me he had been to Malta, Gibralter and Singapor. I think he also went to Australia.
Every answer seems to bring about another query for that I am sorry but please don't let it deter you from answering. :)
Kind regards
Carol
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Re: help in deciphering service record.
« Reply #4 on: 01 August 2017 06:09:42 PM »


Carol

What were his dates of service for Vanguard?
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Re: help in deciphering service record.
« Reply #5 on: 01 August 2017 06:24:24 PM »

WG = War Gratuity
PWC = Post War Credit

These were Government payments to those who served in the armed forces during the war

I believe the payments were deposited in the Post Office Savings Bank and the bank book sent to the service man.
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Re: help in deciphering service record.
« Reply #6 on: 02 August 2017 02:31:37 PM »

June 1948 to
October 1951.
Carol
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Re: help in deciphering service record.
« Reply #7 on: 02 August 2017 02:36:15 PM »

Why  would the WG and PWC be listed under nature of decoration?
Forgive me if I'm being a bit simple. :)
Carol
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Re: help in deciphering service record.
« Reply #8 on: 03 August 2017 01:21:46 PM »

Carol

This is an outline of Vanguard's service:

June Aug 1948 at Devonport
Sep Oct cruise to Mediterranean; calls at Malta and Gibraltar
Nov returned Devonport

Jan 1949 - Devonport
3 Feb sailed for Mediterranean
Feb - Gibraltar
Mar exercises, western Med
16 20 Mar Algiers
28 Mar 2 Apr - Naples
Apr - Malta
May exercises in central Med
18 22 May visit to Venice
May - Malta
15 16 Jun Famagusta, Cyprus
18 Jun Port Said, Egypt
End-Jun exercises eastern Med
1 4 Jul Phaleron Bay, Greece
6 7 Jul Tripoli, Libya
16 Jul - Gibraltar
21 Jul Devonport
Aug Devonport
Sep joined Home Fleet Training Squadron
Oct exercises off Scotland
Nov / Dec Portland

Jan 1950 Gibraltar
Feb - Jun Portland
Jul exercises off Scotland
20 24 Jul visit to Bangor (N Ireland)
Jul/Aug Solent for Cowes Week
Sep to Gibraltar for exercises
Sep/Oct exercises in western Atlantic; visits to Dakar; Cape Verde; Madeira
Nov visit to Lisbon
Nov/Dec Portsmouth

Jan 1951 to Gibraltar
Feb exercises in Mediterranean
Mar Portland
Apr Jun exercises off Scotland
Jul visit: Eastbourne (to coincide with Festival of Britain)
Jul/Aug Portsmouth
Sep/Oct - Devonport
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Re: help in deciphering service record.
« Reply #9 on: 03 August 2017 01:27:51 PM »

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Why  would the WG and PWC be listed under nature of decoration?

Short answer: Don't know.  But I would suspect that as the War Gratuity was, in effect, an award of cash for those who had served, that it may have seemed logical to have recorded it under Awards and Decorations.  Although a separate thing, the Post-War Credit seems to have been associated with the Grant, although I think the intention with this, was to compensate for lost wages (i.e. if they hadn't been in the forces, they could have been earning more as a civvy.)
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Re: help in deciphering service record.
« Reply #10 on: 05 August 2017 08:12:20 AM »

Wow, thank you very much.

To know all these places is truly wonderful. I so wish
he had talked more about his time in the navy but there was always too much to do.
Such busy lives we all lead.
There again, had I embarked upon family history earlier I would have known to ask him.

I guess we need to get more of the younger generation interested in family history so that they learn
from our mistakes.

Again many thanks for all your help and the information you have given me.
No amount of googling helped as much.

Kind regards

Carol
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