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 91 
 on: 13 June 2023 04:19:37 pm 
Started by haryc - Last Post by haryc
I've just come across another one.... Is this correct
St Angelo (Bryony) He spent three months on it whatever it is.
Carol

 92 
 on: 13 June 2023 04:13:05 pm 
Started by haryc - Last Post by haryc
Hi
I am trying to write up my uncles service record and I am stumped.
Under name of ship one entry is Lile (I think). The first letter could be something other than L.
Can anyone point me in the right direction please?
He was posted to it from 20.11.1044 to 12.03.45. He had just finished a stint on the Argonaut and I know he manned the guns.

Also why did they keep going back to shore bases? Was it for down time?

Sorry if this is in the wrong category I couldn't find one for this problem. :(

Many thanks
Kind regards
Carol

 93 
 on: 04 June 2023 10:52:13 pm 
Started by Michael Leichsenring - Last Post by Michael Leichsenring
I have found the 'Naval History' website to be a useful reference. However, I have also found that it can, on occasions, have errors and lacks details. For example, the page for the destroyer HMS Windsor - http://www.naval-history.net/xGM-Chrono-10DD-09VW-Windsor.htm - fails to include details of HMS Windsor's participation in the search for the Bismarck. Other sources show that HMS Windsor sailed with the Home Fleet from Scarpa Flow circa 2300hrs on 22 May. And then was detached to refuel in Iceland, together with all the other destroyers, on 24 May. These details are not in the 'Naval History' summary of HMS Windsor.

Assuming that "Fulmars did not participate" in the search for the Bismarck, 23-27 May 1941, then I do not understand how FAA No. 808 Sqn was granted the Battle Honour 'BISMARCK' and FAA No. 807 Sqn was not granted the Battle Honour. If no aircraft were flown then surely neither squadron should be granted the Battle Honour. If by simply having been present onboard HMS Ark Royal, and there having been a clear intent to launch Fulmars which had been thwarted by the weather, then both squadrons should have been granted the Battle Honour. What I don't comprehend is how one squadron was granted the Battle Honour and the other was not.

Can anyone explain this anomaly please?
Kind regards, Michael.

 94 
 on: 04 June 2023 09:21:38 am 
Started by Michael Leichsenring - Last Post by PhiloNauticus

According to the timeline shown on the naval history site, Fulmars did not participate, see:

http://www.naval-history.net/xGM-Chrono-04CV-HMS_Ark_Royal.htm

 95 
 on: 03 June 2023 10:07:51 am 
Started by Michael Leichsenring - Last Post by Michael Leichsenring
Greetings All.
I am trying to find out if any Fulmar aircraft from HMS Ark Royal participated at all in the search for the Bismarck, 23-27 May 1941. It is well documented that HMS Victorious' Fulmars from FAA No. 800 Squadron were launched 24/25 May 1941.
However, in his Despatch on the Sinking of the Bismarck (ADM234/509-No.896/H.F.1325) dated 5 July 1941, Admiral Tovey wrote the following:
Quote
60. ... Ten Swordfish were flown off at 0835 on 26th May for the first search, whose western edge was next to the flying boat patrols arranged by the Admiralty. It had been hoped to thicken the search with Fulmars, but the weather conditions rendered this impracticable. The wind was from 320° , force 7, sea rough, sky overcast, visibility 10 - 12 miles; the round down of the Ark Royal was rising and falling 56ft.
Can anyone provide me with a reference(s) detailing whether any of HMS Ark Royal's Fulmars from FAA No. 807 and/or 808 Squadrons participated in the search for the Bismarck, 23-27 May 1941?
Kind regards, Michael.

 96 
 on: 01 June 2023 04:54:51 pm 
Started by Richard Junemann - Last Post by PhiloNauticus


Did you use the British Newspaper Archive?
  - yes, that was the source

 97 
 on: 01 June 2023 02:23:17 pm 
Started by Richard Junemann - Last Post by Richard Junemann
Thank you very much for this. Did you use the British Newspaper Archive?
Incidentally, I managed to track down the Scunthorpe police reference. By 1939 he'd changed his name slightly to John Albert Kent and was sentenced to another term of imprisonment for robbery. I think you're correct that the police would have made standard enquiries to the Royal Navy.

 98 
 on: 01 June 2023 09:17:57 am 
Started by Richard Junemann - Last Post by PhiloNauticus

Yes, but also a photo - Daily Mirror - Tuesday 21 October 1913  - page 4  piece headed ‘Manslaughter of Father’


 99 
 on: 31 May 2023 09:58:30 am 
Started by Richard Junemann - Last Post by Richard Junemann
Update: I had another look via Newspaper.com and did indeed find a report in The People 21 Sept 1913 with an artist's impression of Kent. Is this the one you also found?

 100 
 on: 31 May 2023 09:43:20 am 
Started by Richard Junemann - Last Post by Richard Junemann
Many thanks for this. I think the Scunthorpe Police reference may have to remain a mystery.
I'm interested in the photograph of Albert Kent that you say can be found in the press coverage of his crime. I did uncover most of the articles via the Newspapers.com website but not one with a photograph. Could you let me have the name and date of the paper in question.
Thank you again.
Richard

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