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 on: 22 February 2017 11:00:42 AM 
Started by richard.k - Last Post by spooks1959
Hi Richard,

The officer in question was (acting) Lieutenant Frederick Bell-Scott Royal Navy Volunteer Reserve.  He was attached to the Naval Intelligence Division (NID) from the summer of 1942.

In October 1942 the squadron was operating from RAF St. Eval, Cornwall so presumably he was on a mission to gather intelligence. Perhaps squadron records could shed some light on the missions flown during that month,

See Operations Record Books, Squadrons held at the UK National Archives -see this suggests that the log books still exist.

This all I can find on him, and this comes from t he Navy Lists for 1942.

Sorry I can't be of more help.


 on: 21 February 2017 03:08:31 PM 
Started by richard.k - Last Post by richard.k
Hello. The above Officer flew an op with 407 RCAF Squadron in Oct 1942 as an observer. I think he was a RN flak officer. Can any one supply more info on this person?

Thanks Richard

 on: 21 February 2017 03:05:51 PM 
Started by richard.k - Last Post by richard.k
Good Morning. I am looking for the Operational Record Book for this Squadron. I have a daily diary that came from the PRO, but hoping that there is something with more details. Can any one tell me where I should be looking?

Thanks Richard.

 on: 17 February 2017 08:04:22 AM 
Started by Dylan1966 - Last Post by rickles23

Are there any other names of places mentioned?


 on: 11 February 2017 11:49:03 PM 
Started by TPalmer - Last Post by TPalmer
Ok thanks Tony.

If I can find anything, I'll let you and the forum know.

Thanks for your assistance.

Tim Palmer

 on: 10 February 2017 09:34:51 AM 
Started by TPalmer - Last Post by spooks1959
Hi Tim,

As far as I Know crew lists for the majority of RN vessels do not exist . The only lists I have encountered have been printed in commissioning books and independent publications commissioned by a ship's crew.

The assumption that crew lists do not exist is supported by the fact that if a person requests a summary of a service record from the Ministry of Defence the data they compile is drawn solely from pay and victualling records - held by the accounting bases such as COPRA, this is the only name recorded.

If you do come across a source for landing craft crews please share it with the Forum. Good luck.


 on: 07 February 2017 10:40:13 PM 
Started by TPalmer - Last Post by TPalmer
Hi Tony,

Thank you very much for that and going to the trouble of indicating the roles and locations of the other 'ships'. So the 'ships' as much indicate which administrative unit they were assigned to.  I suppose a large vessel would be its own accounting unit. I did some research on COPRA and there may be some avenues to pursue as they would have recorded which landing craft(s) he was assigned to. See: Do have any suggestions who might have these records? MOD? Public Records? Any contacts you know of?

Again, thanks.

Tim Palmer

 on: 07 February 2017 01:52:50 PM 
Started by TPalmer - Last Post by spooks1959
Hi Tim

The ship name is COPRA. The physical location of COPRA was at Largs in Scotland but only a small staff actually operated there, they held and managed the pay and victualling accounts for small vessels, including all landing craft, worldwide.  Sadly there is no notation to indicate which landing craft your father served on so, unless you have some other way to pinpoint which landing craft we may never know,

Looking at the Service Certificate we have:
ROYAL ARTHUR new entry and basic training establishment at Skegness.
CABOT - Training Establishment in Bristol (possibly Stocker/mechanic training).
DRAKE RN Barracks, Plymouth - awaiting draft.
QUEBEC Training Establishment at Inveraray.
COPRA Accounting Base for small vessels including Landing Craft.
DRAKE RN Barracks, Plymouth. Awaiting Discharge.


 on: 06 February 2017 10:00:51 AM 
Started by TPalmer - Last Post by TPalmer
Hi All,

My father's name is Alfred Samuel Palmer, service number KX140074. I have a copy of his Certificate of Service but I am unable to decipher the name of the ship in the third last entry in the first attachment.

The record shows that he spend most of his service life (1 Sep 43 to 30 Apr 46) on this ship. The second attachment shows provisional award of the Burma Star and Rosette, so I am assuming this is a ship deployed to the Burma Campaign. I understand that he worked on landing craft for some of the time during the Burma Campaign as well as one of the aircraft carriers in the BPF such as HMS Illustrious. I know he came to Australia in 1945-6.

I would appreciate if anyone can advise what ship this is.  To me, it reads as 'Lespru' but I have not been able to find any reference to such a ship.

Tim Palmer
Melbourne Australia

 on: 24 January 2017 03:04:42 PM 
Started by patgraves - Last Post by patgraves
I have the three page records of Frederick John Massey, born 14 Jan 1845 at Newcastle.  Assigned to HMS Victory, then apparently to HMS Trafalgar.
HMS Victory appears to have been a training ship at the time. Correct?  How long would he have spent there?
His volunteer period was the standard 10 years from age 18.  However, he did not serve full term.  He went to the US in the late 1860s.  Any way to get more info on why he didn't serve full term and the date he left the service and why?
Can I find out what the Trafalgar did and where it went during his service?
I will send his records if needed or they can be found on line. 

Thank you

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